Most people at 12 years old have been abused into having sex (either by their boyfriends or sick family members). I think it is disgusting at that age. When I was that age I had my first kiss and I only got my period a few months before I turned 13. I feel sorry for twelve year olds having sex

Yeah, it's sad. Heck, I'm 14 and haven't even had a boyfriend yet, let alone a first kiss. Nobody should be having sex when they're fourteen or younger, and even 15+ it depends on the person.

I work with girls from kindergarden to graduation every day. I will never think its ok for girls to be having sex at such a young age. Tangerine... you think society makes girls feel bad about wanting to have sex and that is making the emotional baggage. I disagree. I think that whenever a child enters into an adult aspect of life before there ready it creates baggage. Society forces our children to grow up so fast. A girl, and boys too, need the chance to be young without all the ropes that come with being sexually active. A 14 year old doesnt need to be worried that she is going to get pregnant, an std or worse. There are ways to prevent pregnancy but thier not foolproof. So then what are her options. Young mother hood, or the trama of choosing to kill her child before birth. What a choice for a 14 year old. And to top it off society makes it hard for girls who want to adopt their babies, like its a bad thing. Its so much pressure for them, and decisions if they would wait, they would never have to make. You can come here and say its a sexual free for all and boys and girls should be procreating all over the place but I dont have to share your opinion. I have 7 kids of my own and I tell them all that when they are mature enough for sex, they will know. It will be when they are adults and prepared to protect themselves from deadly mistakes. Also, it will be when their ready to raise a child, because it can happen. So unless a girl is ready for all that goes along with the bananna split, she might want to leave the ice cream in the freezer a while.

Caspersmeow, I really appreciate the way you present your opinion. I think there are too many people on here who lack ability to meet each others arguments in adequate ways, but you don't seem to be one of them Yet, it strikes me that we must live in different societies and have different mentalities. You speak of childhood, and how children should be allowed to be children. I must ask you, is a 13 year old girld a child to you? Because she probably is to most people, even to herself. Yet nature has designed us to be physically ready for sex at 13 years old. Society has told us that we aren't socially and mentally ready then. Hence society has made "children" not sexually adequate. But perhaps nature really meant that what we today call "childhood" could walk hand in hand with sexuality. What we define as a child is also a sexual being. Why has sex become such a taboo for children? I personally remember being very horny and sexually interested at age 13. We label sex as "an adult aspect" and make the biologically sexually suitable people "children" and separate them from sexuality. Of course many 13 year olds are still "children" mentally and don't think that they are ready for sex. They should of course not be forced to have sex :O But there are many 13 year olds that are both mentally and physically ready, who are you and I to decide over them them?

I personally don't believe that an abortion has to be a trauma. I have friends who have had abortions and none of them have had any further emotional problems. But I agree that if I lived in the USA, where abortion is such a hot topic, and so many people disagree with it, I'd feel a lot worse about it. Our societies constantly reflect on us. In my country, where not many people find abortion to be so terrible, I would feel a lot less insecure about that decision. Also, I think our community should have a responsibility to inform about risks, STDs, pregnancy etc. And also to help and cure. I don't mean to brag at all, but sex ed, health care and social security is really terrific in my country and so we have less STDs and less teen pregnancies than in the USA I totally agree with you that adoption should be made easier. And last but not least: I don't want to interfere with how you raise your children :O I'm sure you are wonderful mother, I'm just voicing my opinion like everyone else on here

Well we are beating a dead horse here. Re-hashing the same difference of opinion.
There is no way I will never agree that a 13 year old girl should ever be having sex. You are totally entitled to your opinion, and I am glad things are well taught in your country. In the USA I am tired of seeing little 13 year old girls, and 6 yr old girls for that matter, looking like their 19. They put out the look of being older and more mature, and they want to do older things. Then they get into situations that are way over their heads. In my country abortion is a hot topic. Maybe that is because we are better informed about the actual abortion and baby it involves. We are given the opportunity to know what both parties are facing before hand, and the stage the baby is at. Its legal, but not really a moral choice. I am not here to debate that, but its true. If you are not mentally prepared to cross that line, it can be very traumatic even if you are an adult. If a girl is in that situation and makes that decision and she wasnt ready for it, it can haunt her for her lifetime. That will be true in any country. You asked, "who are you and I to decide over them". We are the adults. We are the parents. I made the decision to not let my daughters date untill they were 16. I made the decision not to have a curtview. I made the decision to listen to where they are going, and give them a time frame based on the activity. I made the decision to check up on them. I made the decision to teach them right from wrong. I made the decision to teach them that sex is for marriage, or at least for adults. Abortion was never something they had to face. Teen pregnancy was not an issue. Birth control, wasnt something they had to worry about, or std's. My choices eliminated my children (boys and girls) from being forced to leave childhood and be shoved into the world of adults. Do I think I am always right.. absolutly not. This whole thing started because I wanted a mom to know that if she decides conservativly with her daughter its o.k. Society is pushing our kids to be adults and we are being made to feel old and dowdy if we say no. Its O.K. to say no. Its ok if you dont feel your child should be dating. And, its ok if you say they can date. Its each moms decision what they let their child do. Its each moms duty to stand by that decision if something goes wrong.
Thats really all I have had to say. I think we are going in circles

Perhaps we are going in circles, but interesting and educating circles at least. I would never take the choice away from a parent to raise her child conservatively. But then I must demand the same respect in return for how I choose to raise my own. I don't have any children and I'm not planning on having any for a long time. I was taught that sex was something pleasurable to take part in whenever I felt ready and with whomever I wanted to, boy or girl. I am not married, but I have had lots of sex, an I have enjoyed it. I have never gotten pregnant and I've never had an STD. I'm confident in knowing that if I get a disease there is free treatment for me. And if I get pregnant I can have an abortion. I don't know what it could depend on, but where I live, very few women are emotionally haunted by their abortions. And I don't live in a totalitarian, unethical, oppressioning country, but a very secular, liberal, Western one where I feel the education on human biology is very high standard. I'm absolutely not saying that you don't of course

Perhaps were getting nowhere with this but I would just like to mention that you speak of "childhood" and "the adult world" the way your society has labeled them. I want to view them from that perspective and at the same time, how nature has labeled them. According to nature, a 13 year old girl is an adult. I think that many children are caught in a gray zone when their sexuality is biologically developed, but not socially. Or not expected by those around them to be developed socially or biologically, at least that's how I felt. And as for dressing, if I ever have children, I would like them to dress in a way that makes them feel comfortable and handsome, no matter what that would be